"Peter" - who has been posting in ACC (and elsewhere in Usenet) since January 2010 is actually a sockpuppet of...

[Linda Lee]

It also soon becomes easy to pick out the ones
attempting to control the group, and the posters.

WHAT !?!?!? There are people here attempting to control the
group? <chuckle>

U wouldn;t know anything about that would you..<
laughing........

Yupp - you hate the Christians having their say in Christian
newsgroups, right? ROTFL!!!

No, I don't. I liked you even when you were doing things
that weren't right. It's so hard to say you're wrong to someone
you like, but at times you have to

I saw you pretending to be a Christian

Can you prove this, because I have to tell you that there is a long
stretch of time between past and present. People make decisions
that you neither have knowledge of nor are witness to. As I told
Roy, it was a choice to believe based on a complex seed that had
been right before my eyes all the time.

Yes, you even wrote me e-mails

Ha! I don't believe THIS! Produce THEM!

You must know that I tend to believe her on this because you e-mailed
me also (saying you'd had a miraculous experience) at least three
times over a year ago.

after your so-called conversion a while

ago, then you claimed to have converted to Judaism last year.

I've wondered around the religions, trying one after the other
in the hope of finding something to fill the gap that still lives
in me. Some will wander and some won't, thats the way life is,
but what is that to you Vera ? I've never see any law in the word
of GOD that says if you have seached for HIM in other religions, that
you are not welcome to become a Christian ? I believe this is one
of YOUR BS laws.....
you can quote me to..it's BS!
This can

all be proved, sure. Now you pretended to be a Christian, tried to
get my trust without telling me who you really were, and all just to
manipulate me with regard to Matt.

Oh yeah, right! It's conspiracy of ONE against Vera! Now what was
that you were saying about making a fool of you, 'cause I see another
opportunity presenting itself. Come on Vera, I'm not conspiring with
myself against you.

Christians are straight on and do not
do this to one another, for their basis is love,

yeah, lets talk about your brand of Christ like love; you had your
#9 resting square on Mats larynx, trying to scare him into a heart
attack with your version of BHS.

something you or Matt
do not have.

I don't want YOUR love Vera...I've seen it in action.

One does not destroy people's lives like Matt did.

Matt destroyed your life, huh? That is real funny, because from where
I'm setting I see a woman with a son, who is able to eat and sleep
with a roof over her head, and who has spent COUNTLESS hours
condemning others on the internet....all without the aid of a job or
a visible means of support. And where and how did you get that
computer ? Or
are you busy on the phone lines tapping out binary while shorting two
wires together ??
I know of several people that would like to be as "unfortunate" as
you are...

That's what I thought when she posted her life story; many people in
this world really suffer from disease, accidents, violence,
starvation, deaths of their children or spouses; her story was rather
mundane, and in the greater scheme of things, told of a pretty
fortunate life.

Oh, you are jealous of me... Money is all there is, huh? You know
NOTHING of me. My story was written in 2004 (or 2005?), and now we have
2010. I would never give you any details of my present life to slander,
lady.

You do not make any sense Vera. Saying your life didn't sound that bad
has nothing to do with jealousy or love of money, neither is it
slander. LOL!

No, he
never repented,
or he would have tried to make amends,

Yes he has. I've seen the apologies with my own little peepers.

and not continue
with his libel right after his dozens of "apologies".

Look at what you have done! I don't see you issuing any apologies
or ceasing your campaigns of harassment. What I have seen is you
actually stepping up the BS, NOT DOWN!!!! I'll gladly provide samples
of it if you believe this is in error....

Neither she or Kelly can quit. They feel they don't have to forgive;
even though they profess belief in Messiah, they ignore that he said
if we don't forgive others, God will not forgive us.

He spoke of brothers or sisters, not hereticks, blasphemers, unrepentant
sinners or Saint bashers.

Baloney. Christ said to forgive everyone, or you will not be forgiven.
It is you who excludes everyone you want from that, trying to make up
your own rules and manipulate God It's your soul...

Mar 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought
against ANY: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you
your trespasses.

Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive MEN their trespasses, your heavenly Father
will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive NOT MEN their trespasses, neither will
your Father forgive your trespasses.

Don't you say the Lord's prayer?
That followed the Lord's prayer which also addresses forgiving our
debtors:
Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in
heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in
heaven.
Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12 ***And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.***
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.

There is no hint
to believe he could ever be serious with that, and neither is there
hope that I could ever trust you again. That is the most evil thing
one can do - destroy the trust of people. I have no understanding
for this. What do you think to gain? Love? Friendship? Trust? Fear?
What? Do you ever think? I did not betray you - that was your wife,
probably, but not me. I have never betrayed a man. And believe me,
I do have enough private problems that I cannot and will not deal
with such a trash from you. I am very disappointed with you,
though, and you are one of those who make usenet unattractive for
most people, while there could have been such a great chance to
unite people. But all you can do is attack, because
you - as much as Matt - are so INTOLERANT that you just come here to
bash the Christians. Why do you think this could be good? If you
fear God's Word so much, do not read it. Nobody forces you.

Well you tell me Einstein, what do you think that hopping from
atheism to religion after religion is all about, if it isn't a
search for GOD and truth, huh ?
I know you're not an idiot now..you're being deliberately contrary
and hard to deal with. This comes of selfishness...\

Don't forget; God didn't set up any of us (Kelly, Fred, Chung,
Diana, , Vera, Matt, Snow, Richard, randy, Terry, Emma, Vince, me,
etc., etc.) to act as the judge of others;

That is wrong.

You're wrong. Did Paul say so? Yes, I think he did, twisting what was
said in the book of Revelaton, which was talking about at Judgment
Day, NOT now while we live in the flesh.

Your false apostle is leading you to disobey the Messiah, as he said:
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with
what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote
out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy
brother's eye.

that includes you,

That is true.

And includes you; the Messiah said NO ONE is to judge another. But you
don't care what the Messiah said; only what your idol the false
apostle Paul said matters to you, right?

Snip rest of Vera's ignorant goading.

[Linda Lee]

It also soon becomes easy to pick out the ones
attempting to control the group, and the posters.

WHAT !?!?!? There are people here attempting to control the
group? <chuckle>

U wouldn;t know anything about that would you..<
laughing........

Yupp - you hate the Christians having their say in Christian
newsgroups, right? ROTFL!!!

No, I don't. I liked you even when you were doing things
that weren't right. It's so hard to say you're wrong to someone
you like, but at times you have to

I saw you pretending to be a Christian

Can you prove this, because I have to tell you that there is a long
stretch of time between past and present. People make decisions
that you neither have knowledge of nor are witness to. As I told
Roy, it was a choice to believe based on a complex seed that had
been right before my eyes all the time.

Yes, you even wrote me e-mails

Ha! I don't believe THIS! Produce THEM!

You must know that I tend to believe her on this because you e-mailed
me also (saying you'd had a miraculous experience) at least three
times over a year ago.

after your so-called conversion a while

ago, then you claimed to have converted to Judaism last year.

I've wondered around the religions, trying one after the other
in the hope of finding something to fill the gap that still lives
in me. Some will wander and some won't, thats the way life is,
but what is that to you Vera ? I've never see any law in the word
of GOD that says if you have seached for HIM in other religions, that
you are not welcome to become a Christian ? I believe this is one
of YOUR BS laws.....
you can quote me to..it's BS!
This can

all be proved, sure. Now you pretended to be a Christian, tried to
get my trust without telling me who you really were, and all just to
manipulate me with regard to Matt.

Oh yeah, right! It's conspiracy of ONE against Vera! Now what was
that you were saying about making a fool of you, 'cause I see another
opportunity presenting itself. Come on Vera, I'm not conspiring with
myself against you.

Christians are straight on and do not
do this to one another, for their basis is love,

yeah, lets talk about your brand of Christ like love; you had your
#9 resting square on Mats larynx, trying to scare him into a heart
attack with your version of BHS.

something you or Matt
do not have.

I don't want YOUR love Vera...I've seen it in action.

One does not destroy people's lives like Matt did.

Matt destroyed your life, huh? That is real funny, because from where
I'm setting I see a woman with a son, who is able to eat and sleep
with a roof over her head, and who has spent COUNTLESS hours
condemning others on the internet....all without the aid of a job or
a visible means of support. And where and how did you get that
computer ? Or
are you busy on the phone lines tapping out binary while shorting two
wires together ??
I know of several people that would like to be as "unfortunate" as
you are...

That's what I thought when she posted her life story; many people in
this world really suffer from disease, accidents, violence,
starvation, deaths of their children or spouses; her story was rather
mundane, and in the greater scheme of things, told of a pretty
fortunate life.

Oh, you are jealous of me... Money is all there is, huh? You know
NOTHING of me. My story was written in 2004 (or 2005?), and now we have
2010. I would never give you any details of my present life to slander,
lady.

You are a strange woman, Vera. Saying your life didn't sound so bad is
not indicative of either jealousy or love of money. Lol! Nor is it
indicative of slander.

No, he
never repented,
or he would have tried to make amends,

Yes he has. I've seen the apologies with my own little peepers.

and not continue
with his libel right after his dozens of "apologies".

Look at what you have done! I don't see you issuing any apologies
or ceasing your campaigns of harassment. What I have seen is you
actually stepping up the BS, NOT DOWN!!!! I'll gladly provide samples
of it if you believe this is in error....

Neither she or Kelly can quit. They feel they don't have to forgive;
even though they profess belief in Messiah, they ignore that he said
if we don't forgive others, God will not forgive us.

He spoke of brothers or sisters, not hereticks, blasphemers, unrepentant
sinners or Saint bashers.

The following says nothing about believers versus non-believers. You
are just always looking for an out, a way to sin, a way to disobey the
Messiah.

Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father
will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not MEN their trespasses, neither will
your Father forgive your trespasses.

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in
heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in
heaven.
Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.

Don't forget; God didn't set up any of us (Kelly, Fred, Chung,
Diana, , Vera, Matt, Snow, Richard, randy, Terry, Emma, Vince, me,
etc., etc.) to act as the judge of others;

That is wrong.

Did Paul tell you that? The Messiah said to not judge:

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with
what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote
out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy
brother's eye.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye
your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and
turn again and rend you.

that includes you,

That is true.

And it surely includes you who issues judgments daily about who you
want to believe has 'blasphemed the Holy Spirit' and is condemned. You
condemn yourself with your own words, or as Paul puts it, being
condemned of yourself.

whether
you 'believe' in God or not.

That is wrong.

You're wrong. Neither believers or non-believers are to judge others.

Instead, we are each told to work on
ourselves and our own behavior. I guess we all forget that at times.

You do, sure.

Mat 7:1  Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2  For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with
what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Read it slowly.

You read it Vera; your constant condemnation of others will condemn
yourself.

I
am Paul's little sister, you see?

I believe that. And I am a member of Christ's family. Too bad you're
just of the family of Paul.

Let me pull out the mote
out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy
brother's eye.

Either quote and accept the whole of God's Word, or it does not mean a
thing at all when YOU quote it. Even the demons know of Jesus Christ and
of the Bible and can quote from it.

That's right Vera, and like you, they still don't obey the Messiah's
words.

Thanks for proving that you do not even know what Jesus said. You are
even vain enough to quote Him and abuse Him for your lies. Sad.

Projection. It is you who ignores what Christ says.

I've been a believer since I was a young child. You said you just
became a Christian 10 years ago after first being into witchcraft, and
only read the Bible at the first with the intention to refute it. Some
people, like yourself, mistakenly think they see in the Scriptures a
way to elevate themselves and condemn others, likely the very same
reasons you'd been a witch. Other people, like myself, are Christians
because they have always loved Christ since their first memories as a
child.